I did say the thread was a safe space. Thanks for sharing.
I would like to argue it was done unintentionally.
I understand this probably does not make me popular, but I never cared about that. I am doing my best here but I am only one person and I do not have a slew of forumers to go off of when I make my points.
It doesnât need to be a popular opinion to be presented without calling out every male forumer, I donât think itâs fair to say youâve been treated so poorly to warrant a statement like that.
I understand if it was unintentional, but just, choose your words more carefully, especially if you want your audience to listen.
I just donât fully understand what youâre wanting us to get at here.
Have I or the others here been discriminatory to females? Have we done something that you believes warrants change? What exactly is the problem with the forums that you want to address?
Iâve listened to the message in your post, and considering your thoughts, provided my opinion on the situation. I may not fully agree with your perspective but that doesnât mean I havenât listened to it, and I think others feel the same.
Honestly who cares, just play the game lol. Weâve all been bullied at one stage or another for all sorts of different reasons and from all sorts of different people. Thatâs just a risk when you socialise. I still love the game though lol.
In my personal experience, male gamers tend to well, be not polite about women and the purpose they believe they serve,
But thatâs probably not unique to gamers, Iâve seen some men espouse those same views in real life.
And they assume because Iâm male, I share those views, to which my response is often rather withering, the game character is not here to serve that purpose, but rather to be a means to play the game.
I even had one player abuse me viciously for using my female character in a costume that was full metal body armor.
I think I am going to try to point out and explain the meaning I have behind what I said in the original post to do this and touch on this later. The intentions behind what I said which will hopefully help clear up misunderstanding. Thanks for the patience.
I am not happy this was flagged and I really do not understand why. You win though because I am not talking about this anymore and I will go back to staying silent. Also, you may want to know I am leaving the forums for personal reasons and so I can focus on my real life which is way more important.
The thing is, I donât think anybody does disagree. Nobody is like, ew no we donât want diversity, males only pls DH Everybody here would appreciate more diversity in the game, or at the least wouldnât really care either way. The people debating the other side of the argument just donât think the discrepancy / ratio is as serious an issue as some have suggested. So thereâs no need for any ill will from anyone towards one view or the other, aside from the couple of people spamming - this looks like itâs actually been quite a thoughtful & sensible debate.
Why was this flagged? In all seriousness, it shouldnât be.
Well, I donât have anything to say except the logic that old princesses shouldnât come to the game because they never do anything that skillset worthy in there movies is wrong because skills donât always have to be based entirely on there films. I remember that conversation pop up somewhere before.
I suppose I can understand what you mean to a extent. But I donât feel we need more female characters tbh.
The reason is Disney doesnât do them well. Disney princesses recently are supposed to be the hero of their story entirely and leave the male characters out. Here are the two Disney princess stories.
Princess is upset, goes somewhere, kinda annoying song, meets prince, falls in love, villain she meets early on comes back, prince saves her, they then live happily ever after.
2.
Princess is upset, has something she really needs to do to save her kingdom or village (along those lines) meets man that she doesnât need, but for some reason letâs go with them, finds a villain that is keeping her home from what it was. Man tries to help fails, then princess has to do all the work because why not?
I feel as Aladdin and Princess & the frog are the only differences.
These female characters either are a support, which are from story 1. And damage from story 2. So either be helpless or unbelievably inaccurate.
But then you see non-Princess Disney characters. They are either kinda cool, or incredibly boring IMO we have most of the cooler ones. So I feel as if Disney needs to do a better job with this then PB.
Okay, so, I agree with this⊠Not many female Disney characters fight⊠It is just how it isâŠ
Yeah, okay cool. There are millions of young boys and men who are mega Disney fans as well.
Okay yes. I have experienced this plenty as well. But that is not Disney nor PBâs fault. Its just people trying to be rude. Keep in mind. There is a block button in the game, and a mute on the forums. Lots of these people are kids, and donât understand that this is wrong. So tell them or block⊠They canât learn if no one teaches them. And their parents probably wonât do it because they donât know they have to.
Though I will say, PB has done it well, adding decent Disney characters with their own skills. But Disney is the one that has made it like this. This is Disney heroes Battle mode. 100% fighting and support. No in between.
Though if you want ways to have the community help with avoiding sexism in chats.
Make another post (probably in the lounge) where we could all try to get some ideas in.
I know people have already gone basically over everything I said. But that is what I think of thisâŠ
Well, I specifically want Ariel to arrive ingame, regardless of her status as an older princess.
As I showed earlier, she is more confrontatitional then the other princesses.
Also, excluding Ariel would not be a wise decision, The Little Mermaid fans already have a great deal of resentment built up because sheâs almost ignored by Disney, in spite of the fact her movie saved the studio from economic failure.
@Tragic-Magic
My biggest resentment with the game is that theyâre ignoring what I call âexpanded universeâ when looking for skills.
Theyâve already seriously stuffed up one character because they didnât consider/acknowledge his expanded universe skills and when Gogo comes out, her skillset will likewise be compromised because her two key skills should come from the expanded universe area.
@Tilarta you made a post that is off-topic that is not what we are talking about we are talking about regarding the issue on diversity and why itâs an issue
I agree, but the game is testing my patience. We are not just talking about that though. I am also trying to address sexism that I find in the community of players and forumers. I have kept trying to shift focus to that, but that does not want to happen for some reason.