Economy changes with 1.7


#126

When thinking about it, I don’t really think there are much inflation in Disney Heroes when it comes to the average player as there inflation is offset by the steady flow of new heroes as well as level cap increases.

Like the the increased ways to get gold is offset by the release of new heroes and level cap raising, so like they are sort of balance or at least keeping the game from having an inflated problem in the extreme sense and some inflation are normal I think for a game like this and the real world do have inflation too after a while.

Inflation is when a currency become worthless or so unmanageable that it is hard to keep it in check, and in the case of Disney Heroes I would say that haven’t really happened for the average player most likely do need a lot of gold to keep up with all the new heroes that gets released.

I think that about sums it up, in Disney Heroes for the average player the releases of new heroes and level cap increases keep inflation for the most part in check I think :-).


#127

Here are two interesting videos on multiplayer game economics and hope you all like them or at least find them interesting :-).



#129

I have an idea that nobody has mentioned. Need to regulate gold for inflation without causing mass playerbase hemorrhaging? Replace sabatoge cost with gold at an increasing rate like it currently is. Could reduce billions of gold from the game monthly.


#130

For a while, I think it’s been better to level up my weaker characters instead of my stronger characters, and this gold/exp change makes it more so.

It’s because of diminishing returns for the stronger characters. 1m gold put into a strong character has less overall effect than 1m gold put into weaker characters.

In particular, Surge is the best source of gold at higher levels, and leveling up weaker characters will increase my earnings from Surge faster than leveling up stronger characters.

(Not so sure about exp. Exp gain is mostly constant except that higher campaign levels give out more exp drinks, but the higher stamina cost offsets that, and I haven’t bothered figuring out what’s better)

If the game really wants us to focus on leveling a subset of the characters, then higher levels should be less expensive or more powerful, so that leveling weak characters is less useful than leveling strong characters.


#131

Now u all know why they rise gold/xp so high rite?


#132

@Miss_Candy yup, and some people will actually buy it, not me. Not falling for it. Fix your update PerBlue!


#133

XD @Polaris? Maybe just quit throwing deals like this and you wouldnt have to worry about the hoarding of gold and XP.

Flag this comment if yoy wanna prove I am right. :sunglasses:


#134

I’m pretty mad about the gold increase, but the XP increase is being lost in all of this, and quite frankly, it’s probably worse.


#135

I agree!!! Its terrible. Its so hard to move up in levels! :roll_eyes:


#136

Playing SS police again meaty ???


#137

These two videos are awesome we need resource sinks not 1.7 !!!


#138

I think its apparent that dang near no one is happy with these changes. Gold, xp costs, and the nerfs are all awful, not to mention just how difficult it is to even promote characters we already have. This game is quickly turning into a grindfest when it was already a pain to begin with in certain aspects.


#139

I have 2 things to say about this. 1) I don’t agree with the assessment that people are hoarding gold and for you to up the cost based on this assessment. That being said, I will go on to 2). I applaud perblue for being forthright with us on the fact you were raising the rates for skills. You could have easily just done it and many of us wouldn’t have been the wiser. So many people are giving you a hard time about it, but I won’t be one of them. The world needs more honest companies and you earned my respect in the way you did this, no matter how unpopular it was.


#140

Don’t buy to these excuses.
They want to force us to spend more money.
They throw these flash deals unique deals bullcrap which pretty much contradicts some of their points.

“oh we don’t want yous to hoard more gold coins, we want y’all to appreciate it more…buuuut…here’s 3mil for just $20”

“oh we provided you with SO MANY ways to earn sweet sweet gold, including HEIST and WAR boxes which yous can only get maximum 7 boxes per month and yous will only get gold if you choose to get it between getting a few already-hard-to-get-super-low-drop-rate purple bits or 1500 badge coins, so we’ll just make things a little bit more expensive to give a bit of a fun challenge to this game…buuuut…a sweet deal is a sweet deal so here’s 6mil gold and 5 diamond crates for $50”

“oh we want yous to be more strategic when working on certain heroes, don’t want yous to just skills all the heroes you have…buuuut…here’s 150 woody chips, 150 mr. Inc chips, 150 aladdin chips for just $30. But wait. If you wait for just an extra hour yous can get 60 extra staminas, 6 mil gold, 70 diamond crates and the rest of these sweet sweet consumables if yous just spend $30 more! WHAT A DEAL AM I RIGHT GUYS?! You can also spend all the diamonds you just received from buying all these deals to get extra 100 elsa and olaf chips, 10 diamond crates and another 3 mil golds. C’mon I promise it’s worth it”

“oh hey, here we’ll give you some extra gifts for watching all these amazing ads from our partners so that we also can make more more money from all these partners, THESE GIFTS INCLUDE GOLDS!..buuuut…since yous hoard so so SO many golds, we’ll just increase your spending needs because we think it’ll be so unfair for the rest of the players. Oh another thing sweety, we ‘need’ to limit the gifts cause we don’t want yous to get too much advantage…yeah I’m talking about you too F2P players! But of course please help yourself with all these sweet deals we’ll throw at your face every few hours, and make sure you’ll buy them cause it’ll help you progress quicker.”

“we care about you all…and we promise we heard you…buuuut…our stats say y’all lying so we’ll just do our thing and we’ll see what happens okay. In the mean time though please spend more of your money for these flash and unique deals. It’ll calm you all a bit. Thank you”

Basically all that. So yeah thanks for all these deals. We really “appreciate” it :slight_smile:


#141

Nice ^^. Glad you like them so much :-).

And I agree more resource sinks would be better than adding an extra tax to an existing facility, which is basically the equivalent of a food supply in Disney Heroes. The skill cost increase in a way could be seen as increasing the price on bread from a real world perspective in a sense.

Still, I don’t really think the inflation is from the natural gold earnings, but rather from bundles that PerBlue sell you could say.
I have under 10 Million as a VIP 0 and think I have between 5-8 million gold now and probably would have been lower if the skill cost was the same as before.

I do know Hero Chips when they pop up now and then in the Market cost around 20 000 gold and could be something I think, but could also really unbalance the game in the sense that those who have a lot of gold can just buy while those who have a more limited income/gold supply have to choose if they rather want to spend their gold on Hero Chips or skill points.

I have seen the idea of that the Sabotage cost could instead be gold, which isn’t a bad idea, but will depend on how high the gold price are/gets.

I think the best solution to the gold inflation problem beside adding a gold cap would be to sell costume threads for gold as they don’t disturb the power balance and are just a cosmetic fun thing :-). Using gold to buy songs if they had that as an option could be something too, especially if iconic Disney songs ;-).

So yeah, here are some thoughts from me and hope you find them interesting ^^.


#142

I’ve never had so much gold in this game that I thought I could do with less gold. In no way do I have a complete roster, and have already had to ration spending… this change just doesn’t seem to have been grounded in good data. Don’t higher VIP already get extra % gold for just breathing?

If the top 1-5% has too much gold, give them some really awesome things to buy in a new “Cosmetic Market”, where they can spend their huge amounts of gold on sweet new glowey outfits for their teams. Something like this gives them a place to sink their money without giving a competitive advantage over others with less disposable resources.

I generally enjoy the way PerBlue solves these kinds of problems and grows the game, but on this change I must strongly object.

SuperTed
Guild Leader - Disney Aussies (Server 6)


#143

You won’t stop them all, chill.
You just bring disorder among people who enjoyed this game nontetheless.


#144

Will do the same. Game is highly unbalanced since the beginning and is coercing players to invest in toons only for the purpose be able to obtain hero discs. I feel it’s a straight lie to suggest, that gold has becoming unmeaningful. Gold has been a problem from day one, especially for FtP players.
This seems to be a ruse to push players to spend money on gold deals. The economy of a game is getting more ridiculous from one promotion level to the next aka update. You as a developer ignore the fact, that whales make you 70-80% of your revenue, but are only 10% of player’s total numbers. They still need some folks to play with after investing this time and ludicrous amount of money to get to the top of every server you’re running.


#145

@Polaris Can we get any sort of update that you are passing along our frustrations to the devs. Do they actually care, or are they just sitting and thinking of more ways to nickle and dime us?

We want thing game to succeed and be one of the best games out there. Many stuck around and defended the 6* update but this was a step too far. A single update has driven people into a state of chaos that, if not given proper attention, will be the downfall of this game and everything that we all, players and developers put into will have been wasted. I can only imagine the excitement a team like yours would have after being allowed to make a game with one of the most iconic universes in the world.

Most developers would kill to have a shot like this. Is this how you wish to squander such an opportunity? By diving down a rabbit role filled with exploitation and immoral greed? We love this game PB. Player’s don’t want to quit but they also don’t want to be used just to pad your pockets. A good majority have made friends here and wish to continue said friendships.

However, when you make rushed, illogical decisions like this increase, without hide or hair of asking what players want and not addressing the biggest issues plaguing the game and exacerbating it, the game no longer becomes fun. It loses that childlike joy and entertainment like so many have experienced with these characters.

How much longer are we going to be at this standstill? Do we mean that little to you that you won’t listen to those who play the game. Are we only dollar signs to you? This has to stop. Make things right. For everyone involved. Please.


#146

I quit this game over a month ago, and I’m so happy I did. Decided to check out the forums to see what the recent updates have been like, and can’t say I’m surprised.

It amazes me there are still people spending when you can clearly see the direction the game is going. When guilds are collapsing due to people quitting, when there are more and more abandoned accounts just sitting on the leaderboard… You know the game is dying. All the whales still remaining out there… Think about how much you’ve spent and really take a look at the game. Are you happy that you’ve spent $5,6,7k on a game that didn’t even make it a year before it started dying? There are other game options with better player oriented companies out there.