Really? Because on my rank the control heroes page you said you thought Magica was better than Minnie and Ursula, yet on your tier list you had Magica at B tier, lower than Ursula, and you have Minnie on A Tier, you also said you think Aurora is better than Snow White, yet you have Snow White as better than Aurora, you also agreed that Winifred is better than Magica, Minnie, and Ursula, yet you have all of them ranked higher than Winifred, so im confused
Yeah I saw those comments and I knew instantly to build Gothel as hard as possible. It was hilarious to watch those comments unfold because I had a feeling she would be a monster. (also Sarah is the only post 3.0 toon I don’t have at red and saying she was the new Sarah was a massive stretch)
One can´t deny that Mother Gothel had the potential to be very bad with the datamined stats. Of course, they were not final, but the balance could have been… anywhere.
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Where?
Yeah, like Underminer… more like under-B-tier
Or worse, Sarah.
Yeah, it would’ve been one thing if the comments were similar to “other summoning heroes have been mediocre and her datamined stats look poor, so I’m pessimistic”, but instead it was a nonstop parade of “Mother Gothel is trash and you’re deceiving yourself if you think there’s a chance she’ll be good”.
Of course, now my fear is that Agent P, who actually looks pretty good based on his skillset, will end up being mediocre…
What I mean is you agreed with @Phal with the following rankings of best to worst, and I’ll add the parts you changed
Aurora > Snow White > Winifred > Magica > Minnie > Ursula > Yzma > Maleficent = Sarah > Jasmine
The last time I checked… I am not Phal.
But to add to above, the gap between heroes is very small, in se areas lower hero can be even better due to synergy and the enemies facing, but in overall look that hero will be slightly worse if not just same.
Bigger gaps are between whole tier.
Yea but you said Winifred is better than Minnie and wou also agreed Magica is better than Minnie but you have Minnie an entire tier above both of them (Minnie = A Tier, Magica & Winifred = B Tier)
That is a whole entire tier
Yes but don’t take it as a strict rule. Winnie Magica and Minnie are all heroes that fall in the “good but not top” category, a minor change in the order doesn’t really affect them much since it’s approximated anyway. Which is better in this case depends entirely on the team/the situation
Also when the difference isn’t much the exact opinion can change. I would put Ursula over Yzma too now
The only thing I was really taking as a strict rule was the Aurora part.
Because Aurora is just straight up Better than any other control hero (In my opinion.)
But I think everyone agrees that she is good.
Big nope.
But she is on the tight top.
Well she is at least better than Mad Hatter, and I said in my opinion, I think at this point Mad Hatter is kinda low A Tier tbh
That’s definitely a no here.
Hatter has the most helpful red skill in the entire game, and Rafiki disk is great for charm-based teams.
His damage is good too.
What keeps him away from S-tier are base stats and nothing else. Simple stat refresh would make push him immediately up.
I’ll spar a yellow mad hatter with my red + 4 Aurora
If you have maxed the red skill.
I think Iconic_Aurora might not have done that, as with so many of us, explaining why they think it is less valuable.
Conclusion just is that Mad Hatter is extermely good and valuable for whales who can max red skill for him, but not so great for everyone else
Which is way easier now…
Whatever…
Already looks like a discussion which will lead nowhere.
exactly my point, and its not like he is the only one who is massively better with red skill maxed out, even with that skill other heroes are already good without even having red skill, and then Mad Hatter only is really really good with maxed out red skill, and then he is easy to beat then having maxed out red skill of someone else because they are already good, like Aurora, or Mary Sanderson.
Hero chips
Remains an unfixed problem, at least for older heroes.
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ok well do u at east agree Aurora is top 10 control?