Prize Wall Feedback

[Pipsqueak]

@Pipsqueak

My only feedback is that the idea of these mini Prize Walls should be to offer people a way to improve their newly-refreshed hero to the point where they are at least somewhat usable. Then, they might continue to work on them where they otherwise would not.

This Wall does not do that

I reiterate this again for the Rapunzel prize wall -

Without purchasing tokens, all we can reasonably expect to get from it that directly helps our Rapunzel is around 200 of her hero chips.

At level 325 that’s like… 8 Red Skill levels, or 4 if you want to give her some mods.

It’s fine that the Mini Prize Wall is aimed more at new players, but there’s got to be something worthwhile for endgame players too.

Red Skill chips for her should be offered from stage 1, that wouldn’t affect the new players while giving the rest a chance to use those few hero chips. Though tbh, the economy is now overflowing with Red Skill Chips because of the increases everywhere and Hero Chips remaining very scarce, but that’s another story…

Even adding some other arbitrary reward to the stage progression would make it more interesting to complete. It’s very lacklustre currently.

[Musketeer-Endgame]

Bad hero, nothing special, no hero quests. Not worthy.

@Pipsqueak

Red Skill chips for her should be offered from stage 1

This, but overall amount of skill chips needs to be increased, like 3-5 times.
By the end this prize wall would give only 600-1000 skill chips, it’s less than 5 levels.

@Pipsqueak

around 200 of her hero chips.

At level 325 that’s like… 8 Red Skill levels, or 4 if you want to give her some mods.

And this really speaks how expensive it is, and it only gets worse. Red skill costs, hero chips wise especially needs readjustments.

[The_Real_Numi]

@Musketeer-Endgame

Red skill costs, hero chips wise especially needs readjustments.

PerBlue Dev Team NEVER TO THIS DATE decreased the costs of ANYTHING.
If some change is to be done, they will just give more instead of asking for less…

[Phal]

@The_Real_Numi

If some change is to be done, they will just give more instead of asking for less…

It’s fine as long as it’s somewhat enough…
I mean everything else scales with level cap, why not hero chips? The demand increases with each cap, similarly to stamina, disk power and skill chips

Diamonds don’t scale but neither does the demand, just the FTN requirements do

[Bluebandit93]

The problem is
Everything else does not scale with TL
They are changing it, but making up for outdated rewards are difficult

[Musketeer-Endgame]

@The_Real_Numi

PerBlue Dev Team NEVER TO THIS DATE decreased the costs of ANYTHING.

They did, when red skills were first released. Duh.
Unlocking red skill used to cost 125 hero chips.

@The_Real_Numi

If some change is to be done, they will just give more instead of asking for less…

Whatever… ?
The outcome (needed) is the same.

[The_Real_Numi]

@Musketeer-Endgame

Unlocking red skill used to cost 125 hero chips.

Only that one time then. But only removing the “1” from it.
Not done thoroughly for many levels… as it is obviously too much work to get it approved.

[The_Real_Numi]

@Phal

It’s fine as long as it’s somewhat enough…
I mean everything else scales with level cap, why not hero chips? The demand increases with each cap, similarly to stamina, disk power and skill chips

Diamonds don’t scale but neither does the demand, just the FTN requirements do

Well purely technically speaking a “Buy Max” on Gold Crates is theoretically able to give infinite hero chips.

[Jody_Caviness]

Only if they add in all the non-exclusive heroes, not just the one-star-unlock ones. Currently, you can spend your entire stockpile of gold on crates and not be one whit closer to maxing the Mad Hatter’s red skill, to give just the most important example.

[The_Real_Numi]

Sadly, most of the 2* and 3* heroes are trash.

@Jody_Caviness

not be one whit closer to maxing the Mad Hatter’s red skill, to give just the most important example.

just a matter of maths

let´s say there are 150 1* heroes that can be dropped… more or less…
and you get 10 random hero chips on average per buy 100 (aka 900K gold).

Meaning 900M gold gets you 10,000 random hero chips. Divide that by 150, thus you get 66 on average.
Say it´s 74 hero chips on average per any droppable hero per 1B gold.
And you need about 2.5k hero chips right now to max red skill, so… about 35B to get enough to max everyone?

[Jody_Caviness]

There’s 54 two- and three-star-unlock heroes. Even if you want to argue that players shouldn’t be trying to max the red skills of any hero that isn’t at or near the top tier, that still leaves Tron, Elsa, Darkwing, Jessie, Baloo, and, as mentioned before, Mad Hatter unavailable. And considering that Hatter’s red skill is arguably the most important one to max in the entire game…

[The_Real_Numi]

Wow I can’t believe you actually wrote Baloo.

The others I agree with but generally are not that important to non-PvP. So then it just goes with your playstyle.

[Jody_Caviness]

I’ll disagree with some of Musketeer’s idiosyncratic tier list rankings, but based on the few times I’ve faced a leveled-up Baloo, I do think A-tier is a reasonable rank for him – especially if his red skill is maxed, which, again, is the whole point of my griping.

[Musketeer-Endgame]

@Jody_Caviness

I’ll disagree with some of Musketeer’s idiosyncratic tier list rankings

Excuse me?? And what is has to do with anything here?

@Jody_Caviness

especially if his red skill

@Jody_Caviness

is the whole point

the whole tier list is based on maxed red skill.

[Jody_Caviness]

@Musketeer-Endgame

Excuse me?? And what is has to do with anything here?

Because you’re one of the few players I’ve seen make the case that Baloo is at least A-tier worthy. I’ve seen some people dismiss your ratings of Baloo, Calhoun, and some others solely because it’s not a common opinion; what I’m saying is that while I don’t think you’re correct in every case where you disagree with the mainstream, I actually do agree with you more often than not.

[Musketeer-Endgame]

That’s because most of people just thing newer = better, completely ignoring red skills, and I doubt these people ever had maxed Calhoun, but… what it have to do with prize wall?

[The_Real_Numi]

Musketeer’s list is about 75-80% correct for me overall.

[Iconic_Aurora]

I agree with Musketeer’s rating of EVE (A-Tier) in which many people disagree

[Spellcaster]

The new prize wall is the worst ever. I don’t know how anyone thinks this is helpful and/or useful for any player. It is actually a total waste of time to get 10 Hero Chips a day, if you’re lucky. I’ve upgraded skills, levels, etc. AND have received absolutely nothing in return for all the resources I’ve used or should I say lost.

[Zelkiiro]

@Spellcaster

The new prize wall is the worst ever. I don’t know how anyone thinks this is helpful and/or useful for any player. It is actually a total waste of time to get 10 Hero Chips a day, if you’re lucky. I’ve upgraded skills, levels, etc. AND have received absolutely nothing in return for all the resources I’ve used or should I say lost.

Umm…what? I’ve already gotten 1200 stamina batteries and enough XP drinks to recover the cost of boosting her to max level, and it’s only Day 1. The Prize Wall’s better than it has been for a few months now. What’re ya talkin’ about?