Which character needs a hero refresh desperately

while on the topic of Merida, how does her Elastigirl disk relate to her white skill, as she shoots multiple arrows?

Well my understanding of the disk is since her white shoots 8 arrows, and every 3rd arrow freezes an enemy for 1.6/2.2/2.8/3.4/4 seconds. That the 3rd and 6th arrow will freeze whomever they hit and that her next basic attack after her skill activation will freeze. You could get at most 3 freezes from her white skill assuming she has the disk proc prepped before she uses her white skill.

Meaning if she goes 1 attack, 2 attack, whitte skill then her 1st, 4th and 7th attack will freeze. Another scenario for the triple freeze would be 1 attack and white skill for her 2nd, 5th and 8th to freeze.

I could be wrong on that but that is my understanding.

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That is also my understanding, I was just hoping it was tested :wink:

The reasons why they need a refresh.1.Merida is shooting enough arrows but is ko-ed after that.2.Tia is falling behind in city watch and is not charming very well.3.Jack skellingtonā€™s blue is not doing much damage.

Okay so letā€™s break this down one by one.

ā€œMerida needs a refresh because she is too easy to take out.ā€ She has some of the best dps because of her multi hitting white, immense armor shred, piercing attacks and can freeze enemies with every 3rd attack which happens more often at 50% HP because of her amazing attack speed steroid. To counteract these strengths there needs to be some sort of weakness which in her case is her durability. She is a damage hero not a tank hero so having low survivability is something to be expected. Make sure she has support through shields and healing to keep her going if you feel she goes down too early. Heroes like Baymax, Mickey, Woody are all good allies for her.

ā€œTia needs a refresh because her charm isnā€™t strong enough.ā€ While this may be true for her especially compared to the recent release of Mad Hatter she is far more used for her teamwide silence than her charm. Her charm is predictable because it always hits the back most enemy. As such heroes like Flynn and Miguel are often times used to counter her in that regard. Queen of Hearts only exacerbates this even further with the 52% chance to resist charm for her entire team. For these reasons Tia/Yax is her prefered disk because her silence hits everyone and the increased silence duration includes her allies. Giving her increased synergy with heroes like Rex, Ralph and Scar.

ā€œJack Skellington needs a refresh because his blue doesnā€™t do enough damage.ā€ For once I completely agree with you on this. Skellingtons blue doesnt do enough damage, now why is that? Because it does no damage in the first place. His blue is a basic attack augment that makes his basic attacks do splash damage. Similar to Vannelope purple. The reason why this doesnā€™t need to be fixed is for a few things.

  1. Jack Skellington is the only hero as of 1.8.B to do pure fantastic damage with his basics. JJ and Mike can do this with Violet and JJ disk respectively but Jack does not need a disk to do so.

  2. At lvl 105 max skills Jack Skellington has about 7k basic damage on top of a roughly 5300 damage burn over 3 seconds or about 1700 damage a second. Once again this is fantastic damage and Reality is a lot less common then Armor. Giving this a splash which applies the regular damage and burn will eviscerate low reality teams.

In conclusion. It is my belief that none of the aforemention heroes need a refresh, when the basis for said refreshes is ignoring the heroes strengths, innately wrong in premise and overall very base in their thought process. If you wish to counter these points than by all means feel free to do so but please have some sort of quantification as to why, what avenues of these heroes need buffed and how to improve upon them. From my perspective all these heroes are incredibly strong in their own right and with their own team. I would also go so far as to say Skellington and Tia are very much high tier heroes. With that I hope you have a wonderful day!

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I dont really see why skellington or tia need a refreshā€¦ merida is goodā€¦ but to be honest i never saw her used in any teamā€¦ her abilites are good and both disks too but no one uses herā€¦ maybe with hades next disks (that will increase DoT of allies) her bogo disks will get better and someone will start use her. Heroes that need refresh are those that are just so bad and ā€œold conceptionā€ to be totally useless/garbage once u reach lv65+ like finnick felix zurg yaxā€¦ all these heroes are fine to start the game but once you level a little they have no use at allā€¦

According to me and so far, I would like to see Zurg get a hero refresh. HP has been an issue for said Hero.

Imo the heroes who need to be refreshed are:
-Yax, and everybody knows why;
-Mr. Incredible: I kinda like him, but his green skill is pointless, and heā€™s too squishy, especially after he jumps;
-Buzz: with that purple skill, he might be a top tier if the other ones were better. And both his basic damage and HP are really bad;
-Genie: I know this is pretty much against Genieā€™s philosophy, but letā€™s be serious, HOW STRONG COULD HE BE if he just healed himself too?
-Ursula: she has a good white skill, but her Green is completely useless and her blue would be much better with a higher range;
-Mike: only good in scare teams, otherwhise heā€™s pretty bad, altough his damage is decent. His blue skill is too bad;
-Sulley: Huge damage and a magnificent support with his Woody disk, Sulley is one of the squishiest tanks nowadays, despite his big HP. A lot of people maxed him out when he was a top character, so a buff for him would benefit many players;
-Baymax: okay, a lot of people might disagree, but even if Baymax is a great character himself, heā€™s a bit squishy as well, and his shields arenā€™t healthy enough. I also donā€™t get his purple skill at all;
-Calhoun: Come on! Her Violet disk is too good to let her be forgotten because of her pretty bad damage.

Obviously this is just my opinion, you might disagreeā€¦

Merida got a hero refresh.

Wallā€¢e is a character who needs a hero refresh.Here are some things that tell you why:

White is too weak

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Wall-eā€™s main purpose is not hos white. His main purpose is his abilty to give allies energy.

Here are my wishes for hero refreshes.
Yax: Despite being a support, he only has 1 skill which supports. Donā€™t exactly know what this character needs, but he desperately needs something. Both his Blue and Green skills need additional effects or more damage.

Dash: Hard to exactly crunch the numbers, but Dash would be so much better if they ditched his Blue skill altogether. Yes, there is no skill in the game quite like it, but it is normally bad for a squishy character to be taking damage for a tank designed to be able to withstand hits. A new skill idea would be something like: Dash dodges an attack and stirs up sandstorm around the attacker, damaging them for (not much) damage and blinding them for 6 seconds.

Genie: His extra Skill power helped, but Genie still needs a little more. I see the problem with letting him Wish on himself, (He could become quite powerful if his 2nd and 3rd wishes landed on himself) , so what if his Blue and Purple skill werenā€™t attached to wishes. For example: Blue: Three Wishes also grants an ally 7 seconds of invulnerability. Genie canā€™t grant this to himself. tis would also mean he could use a wish on himself.
If something like this wonā€™t work, Consider merging his Blue and Purple skills into one and then making a new skill for Genie. Genie would also need a truckload of extra HP this way.

Ralph: He is simply unable to last long enough to do a good job of stunning. His arsenal includes a 3 second stun to close enemies, a 2 second silence, and a 7 second single stun. Maybe activate Big Duty at 40% health left.

Frozone: Simply outclassed. 4 second freeze is nothing. and while an 8 second freeze is impressive, it only targets the closest enemy. His purple skill can equate to some nice damage, but it usually gets wasted. A global freeze frostbite would add extra synergy opportunities.

Ursula: While very niche and useful when her White skill works, She is not at all useful otherwise. her Green takes a long time and isnā€™t energy to begin with. Her white is, at most, a 4 second stun that removes 1000 energy and at least, nothing. A good refresh would be targeted around making it easier to use her Hexed right.

Zurg: This characterā€™s problem is simple. He doesnā€™t have enough health. It is hard to build a team that can easily protect Zurg as he prepares his White. so these changes will make Zurg even more lethal while he does stick around.
I suggest:
Ion Blaster. 20% faster. Chance to crit increased by 10%.
Green: Increase duation to 8sec. Enemies deal slightly less damage while Scared.
Blue: energy stolen increased to 100, faster animation.
Purple: no longer gain energy after stealing energy, Zurg also gains (small amount of) Skill Power each time he damages or scares an enemy (with a cap at 75% more skill power, around 75 ticks needed to max out Skill Power.)

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Yax, character refresh.

white skill: +20% heal.

Green Skill: attacks three enemies in total and increase damage by 35%

Also gives Yax 100 energy.

Blue skill: Increase damage by 60% and make ot also slow targets by 20% for 6 seconds.

This will give him synergy with a freeze/slow team and enable him to heal sooner.

Purple skill: +7 seconds to slow.

My ideas, I may need to tweak him a bit.

I like this. If these changes were implemented. Especially the added synergy with a freeze/slow team, as they rarely have ways to fight Normal Damage teams.

Yax and frozone need refresh.

I chose Yax

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