Heist AFK WHY?!?!

[_SG]

Why are there so many AFK players in Heists?

You probably already know that it’s a common problem going on all over the server that many players join heists and start going AFK (away from keyboard) meaning they just joined to exploit other people’s heist efforts.

But why???

Why do you AFK players do this? Leaving us all the work and not do at least one investigation?
Very inconsiderate!

I’ve been to many heists with different kinds of players. And believe me, I played with AFK players way too many times.

One time, I did a medium heist with 3 AFK players and the one that was not AFK was not that good at doing heists at all.

I joined a hard heist and 2 were AFK. The other 2 active players started saying negative things to them (even though the AFK players were not there to see it). They said threatening things like beating up their guilds and blocking them. They were really angry so I stayed silent. When one of the AFK players came back during the heist, he apologized but the other 2 active players were still indignant.

After doing many heists with AFK players, I realized some things.
These people, these AFK players, they all have reasons why they went AFK.

I heard a lot of reasons why players were AFK.

Here are some of the common reasons:

• Low Battery Phone:
  - Needed to charge
  - Had to switch phones
• Boss came in
• Boss doesn’t want to see people not doing their responsibilities
• Someone called
• Doing other stuff while playing (eating, watching, etc.)
• Had to pay attention to a conference or event
  - It is rude to use your phone while someone’s speaking/performing

And many more.

I too am guilty of AFK. I joined a heist and I was not able to do anything, nothing at all. And the reason was: I was immediately called to do something. So I put down the phone and started doing what I must do. It took more than 20 minutes so there was no time for me to catch up with the heist. I felt remorseful. One player was even vexed enough to share what happened in VIP chat.

You may learn to be patient with AFK players or get used to them as time goes by.
It may be infuriating, but you need to learn to see their side of the story.
I know you also don’t want to be threatened by other players because you had something more important to do.

So the next time you do heist with AFK players, remember to stay calm, be patient, and show kindness and compassion to these people.
You never know, one AFK player might be in a middle of a life-threatening calamity.

Remember, real life is more important than playing games.

I felt I needed to share this. Thanks for reading!

[Destro_II]

I have the same problem as well but yeah…

[Explorer_Timon_II]

I wish there was a way to exit a heist if you have to go AFK, because you are right…stuff happens…or a way for the leader to remove the AFK player after a certain period of inactivity.

[Wild_Eule]

I have a different version of the story. I see the beginning of a heist. Initiator puts his charas on diamonds THEN leaves…second guild member of his guild does the same - leaves too
There is no call, there is no low battery ( I keep two power banks fully charged with me alle the time).
Ockhams Razor (google it) at it’s finest…sorry.
I WANT to believe you - but I CAN’T…

[ReapersFuryX]

Knowing heist can take anywhere from 5-30 minutes… maybe don’t join one if you aren’t sure you’re going to be able to participate. If you’re at work, make that known in the lobby before it starts that you will put all 5 on defense for this reason.

Sure, unexpected things can’t be accounted for, but people that are at work or doing other activities at the same time know full well they aren’t focused only on the game

[Explorer_Tigger_III]

I’m sorry but some of the reasons you mentioned are purely excuses. It’s as @ReapersFuryX mentioned. A heist takes 5-30 mins. So why start/join one in the middle of work? Even if you joined during your break but the host doesn’t start immediately, have the decency to exit the lobby before it starts if you are left with 15 mins of break. Or at the very least, inform everyone in the lobby. If they still start knowing you will leave, then you won’t be blamed.

[Wild_Eule]

Im with Wisdom…there are ppl just leeching away the time and nerves of gamers who invest some heart and time intothis game…

[Musketeer-Endgame]

Heist NEED system which auto. kick players which doing nothing for 1 minute.

[mal_III]

heist have 2 huge problems:

1. AFK players
2. ppl who starts the fights asap

IMO, the 2nd is bigger. I’m ashamed, but yesterday I became AFK because of the 2nd. Before the heist starts, all 5 players discussed and agreed with wait for help. When the heist started, someone was starting the fights asap. We lost two diamonds in the first 30s, I tilted and left that game. Later I feel guilty and came back. There was 2 diamonds, and the person didnt stop playing it wrong.

I feel really guilty and now I’m trully trying to keep calm and stop being so stressed with that, but this is something that is f****** with me in most of games…

But ok. Lets talk about AFK players in general.

Every single day, when I look at the started games, there’s always one with only one player, and the player didnt moved one single hero. He just enter the game and hope that someone join his heist and win for him. Thats the problem, the ppl arent doing this just sometimes. They do that because they dont wanna play heist, but need the coins. When we talk about AFK players thats the guy we are talking about. And thats the problem they need to solve

[Wild_Eule]

Did we do sth wrong ?

[GurggleD]

For the 5 millionth time since before release… most people do NOT want to invest 15-30 mins (being generous here) in a constant block of time playing this game mode. Without even considering how not fun it is (subjective to individual), the point of mobile gaming, generally, is NOT to invest large blocks of time and/or attention into it. This game mode is specifically designed counter intuitive to most people’s expectations. Also, people are able to gain the benefits without doing the work and many will take advantage of that.

But a huge point not usually discussed is the heist was designed horribly. How many times on easy or medium has anyone actually gotten enough clues to find the hideout BEFORE defeating the thief 5/9 times? Personally, that’s a 0 for me. Thus if the team is going to win before gathering the clues, why investigate in the first place? I’d rather guard the jewels and fight the thief but that will now take even more time. I’m not even going to mention all the other ridiculous flaws that need fixing/tweaking as time is the main point here.

[Rocco_B]

I’m just going to say my opinion and you don’t have to agree: I don’t care about people doing this and I do the same, I don’t really do anything in heists since there is nothing much to do anyway… I wouldn’t say it’s inconsiderate and rude because like you said, it’s a game. There’s not really a reason to feel insulted by it.

[Rocco_B]

Also about starting fights right away… I don’t understand why people hate others who do this. I do it all the time.

[Explorer_Tigger_III]

Everyone’s entitled to their own opinions. But let me ask you this. If you feel that there’s nothing to do in the heist, why bother joining onr in the first place?

Imagine if you join one and you AFK. And the other 4 players AFK along with you. What do you think is gonna happen? You’re gonna lose that heist and the ticket. And you can’t start another one for at least 30 mins. So what’s the point?

As for starting fights immediately, why do you do that? Is it so you get to finish the heist faster? But if you rush in without help arriving, you’re gonna lose the fight and possibly prolong the heist. So you initial intention of finishing the heist is nulled.

It is worse for hideout fights where losing it ends the heist. Imagine if other players have been going at it for 30 minutes and you decide to lose it because you can’t wait 10 seconds for th reinforcements. How is that not inconsiderate?

I’m not trying to change your opinion about how you go about doing heist. I’m just hoping that you get to see other players opinions.

[Explorer_Tigger_III]

And one last thing, if PerBlue create a special heist where after starting the heist, all of you are unable to do anything (not even move your heroes) until the heist concluded itself (meaning a forced AFK heist), would you still join it?

[Razzle_Dazzle]

I know some people want auto kick options, but that would be a terrible idea.

Some AFK’s are at least considerable enough to guard diamonds, if they got instant kicked based on a timer it would make life harder for everyone.

Or someone who did the lions share of the work in a heist for the first 15 minutes, but suddenly had to get of the game - they should not be kicked and get no reward either.

The scoring system needs to include incentive to guard diamonds.

Either tokens awarded based on time defending (1 token for every 5 minutes defending - so if all 5 defend, that’s 1 token a minute)

Or bonus tokens, say 5 tokens for the toon who spots the thief (best chance to do this is defending).

Players will AFK because heist can sometimes take 30 minutes, some do it intentionally for rewards, others do it because life happens. We just need a system that encourages players to provide more support so the rest of us aren’t stuck in a lost cause.

[Explorer_Tigger_III]

I agree that an auto kick is a bad idea. But there needs to be some form of penalty for those who AFK without helping intentionally.

[Champion_David]

I heard one guy mention in another post an idea: The hesit kicks nobody till there is fivenpeople. If someone is afk then to anyone looking, there is only four players. Asnsoon as this new person joins, the afk one is kicked out…i like it.

[McDuckBH5M]

As there may not be a way to kick an afk player, i think no rewards should be given if player is afk when the match ends.

[Wild_Eule]

Although ppl the who know me for my criticism of this game would love to hear that you are right you are (unfortunately) not.
You cannot be a hundred percent sure if they did on purpose…
SO you have to differ from getting a call from covering diamonds and then going afk to “not cooperating“ also you have to be very careful not to pick on ppl who are from an opposing guild or you have some personal issue in their behaviour.
Well we could try for a heist kick button at least for the initiator on server 1 and see how it goes.