Hero Balance and Tweaks

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At the current state of the game, nobody needs a nerf, but a bunch of heroes needs a stat refresh.

So there is a special thread to keep all this feedback in one place.

To not overwhelm the team, at the start I suggest just smaller tweaks needed for heroes in their disks to include Armor Negation, Reality Negation, Crit Damage, Evasion, and Reality where is needed.

The list of heroes which can/would become good if they received the listed changes in their disks, this includes adding the same/similar effects to both disks to keep them balanced!

Top priority

Basil of Baker Street

  • Add: Evasion or Tenacity (710 or 1065 at Disk Level 315)
  • Add: Armor Negation (710 or 1065 at Disk Level 315)

Finnick

  • Add: Evasion or Tenacity (710 or 1065 at Disk Level 315)
  • Add: Armor Negation (710 or 1065 at Disk Level 315)
  • Add: Reality negation (710 or 1065 at Disk Level 315)

Vanellope

  • Add: Fantastic Crit (710 or 1065 at Disk Level 315)
  • Add: Reality Negation (710 or 1065 at Disk Level 315)

Sisu

  • Add: Evasion or Tenacity (710 or 1065 at Disk Level 315)
  • Add: Armor and Reality in huge amounts (above 700k at Disk Level 315)

EVE

  • Add: Evasion or Tenacity (710 or 1065 at Disk Level 315)

Calhoun

  • Add: Armor and Reality in huge amounts (above 700k at Disk Level 315)

Jack Sparrow

  • Add: Evasion or Tenacity (710 or 1065 at Disk Level 315)
    • Nick Wilde Disk
  • Change: Scaling of Armor Negation from 4 per disk star to 150-200

Beast

  • Add: Evasion or Tenacity (710 or 1065 at Disk Level 315)

Sally

  • Add: Evasion or Tenacity (710 or 1065 at Disk Level 315)
  • Add: Reality negation (710 or 1065 at Disk Level 315)

Merida

  • Add: Evasion or Tenacity (710 or 1065 at Disk Level 315)
  • Add: Armor Negation (710 or 1065 at Disk Level 315)

Jack Skellington

  • Add: Evasion or Tenacity (710 or 1065 at Disk Level 315)
  • Add: Reality negation (710 or 1065 at Disk Level 315)

Lilo

  • Add: Evasion (710 or 1065 at Disk Level 315); in her case she needs Evasion
  • Add: Reality negation (710 or 1065 at Disk Level 315)

Russell & Kevin

  • Add: Armor and Reality in huge amounts (above 700k at Disk Level 315)

Honey Lemon

  • Add: Reality negation (710 or 1065 at Disk Level 315)
  • Add: Fantastic Crit (710 or 1065 at Disk Level 315)

Tigger

  • Add: Evasion or Tenacity (710 or 1065 at Disk Level 315)
  • Add: Armor Negation (710 or 1065 at Disk Level 315)
  • Add: Reality negation (710 or 1065 at Disk Level 315)
  • Add: Crit Damage (710 or 1065 at Disk Level 315)
  • Add: Fantastic Crit (710 or 1065 at Disk Level 315)

Oogie Boogie

  • Add: Reality negation (710 or 1065 at Disk Level 315)
  • Add: Crit Damage (710 or 1065 at Disk Level 315)

Miguel

  • Add: Evasion or Tenacity (710 or 1065 at Disk Level 315)

Quorra

  • (EVE disk) Change: Scaling of Normal Crit and Fantastic Crit from 2 per disk star to 150-200

Scrooge

  • Add: Evasion or Tenacity (710 or 1065 at Disk Level 315)
  • Add: Fantastic Crit (710 or 1065 at Disk Level 315)
  • Add: Reality Negation (710 or 1065 at Disk Level 315)

Everyone is welcome to post their suggestions.

@Samm

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Few suggestions for some heroes I use (not including ones that straight up need a full stat refresh)

Hiro

  • Increase attack speed and energy gain a bit
  • Reduce initial cooldown of blue skill from 3 seconds to 1 second
  • Increase Energy to 1000 at max stars on Baymax disk and add Evasion in a good quantity to Darkwing disk to balance it out
  • Technically could use a stat refresh but I don’t think he’d even need it after this

Namaari

  • Add Evasion in good quantities to Raya disk

Kim

  • Change purple skill effect as it currently does nothing at high rank. Could be anything that works with her kit, really

Tron

  • Increase hardy given from both green skill and red skill

Scrooge

  • Not an actual buff, more like a fix I guess. Occasionally an enemy will end up so close to him (or even behind him) that Scrooge’s white skill doesn’t damage them. Doesn’t impact him too much but it’s annoying when it happens, so I’d suggest changing that

Gogo

  • Make her not targetable during her white skill animation
  • Make her purple skill trigger if enemies have the needed HP before her white skill damages them, rather than after
  • If not possible, remove the HP cap entirely or at least lower it to increase consistency

Winifred

  • Make her purple skill trigger more consistently. A lot of times she dies without using it at all

And that’s it for now I think. Hope these suggestions can be at least considered :crossed_fingers:

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I think Miguel is balanced very well. He already had a refresh, so I think he is ok.

I forgot they were in the game :sweat_smile::sweat_smile:. I totally agree.

I also think Kim, Hamm, and Flynn Ryder need refreshes. Kim doesn’t do enough damage and her max HP is really low. Hamm needs more health and tenacity. Flynn Ryder, well, he just needs everything changed.

Overall, I think DHBM needs to make sure heroes are not forgotten about. Half the heroes I forget about, which is partly my fault, but still. Heroes like Vanellope, Finnick, Ursula, and Peter Pan just aren’t strong enough to be used. Usually the older heroes are the ones that we forget about.

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Kim Possible definitely needs a new purple skill as it does nothing now.

And her green skill should do AoE damage, hitting few enemies.

And improve her core stats.

It’s more of… he has nothing, so it could eventually push him down and make him obscure like in 2018.

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I guess so. He must have been the thing where he is great immediately after his refresh, but he soon gets worse as others get stronger, so I undertstand.

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I have one minor hero nitpick to add, for Fairy Godmother. When her entrance activates on heroes who are already KO’d, the healing does nothing so it’s pretty worthless. It’d be good if, in a circumstance where the first hero to fall below 50% health happens to be KO’d, their health stopped at 1 momentarily so that her heal could activate before they die lol.

10 Likes

So she’d be kinda like Jim in that sense?
I like it :+1:
Besides we lack heroes that save teammates, we only have Jim and Angel

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