War Rematching Feedback

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#1

Hello everyone! The team is working hard on making some QoL changes to Guild War. We’ve seen feedback previously regarding getting rematches with the same guilds. We’re curious on how you all feel regarding rematches and how many times do you end up fighting the same guilds? Do you hate this? Are you fine with some rematches? How many would be too many times to fight the same guild?

Please keep this feedback to rematches. We are already looking into MMR and other pain points. We do not need that feedback at this time.

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#2

Every 12-14 wars.

Kinda… it always gives same results.

Some are just guaranteed defeats, so…

Once per 2 months?

But you only will change matchmaking and nothing else?

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#3

No, this is just a question on rematches.

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#4

I love to face guilds who actually can give us a good fight… So the ones close in mmr… I don’t mind to rematch them like 2-3x a month.
Those wars who are already decided before they even started are quite boring tho for both sides… so I prefer seeing those guilds just 1x a month maybe

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#5

Wish we could just have the option to send war challenges to other guilds. This would give them the option to either accept or decline the challenge.

Perhaps have guilds placed in specific leagues based on power, win loss ratio, etc… to help the leagues remain fair.

If there’s an additional option to send a war challenge to a guild that isn’t in your current league, you could kill two birds with one stone by having guild contest/regular influence as the currency required to send those challenges.

I’m fairly certain there are more than just a few guilds that wouldn’t mind putting some of the guild contest influence they have stockpiling to actual use seeing as how it’s unlikely we’ll have new consumable or contest perks/upgrades added any time soon.

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perhaps the most important of all…

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#6

Our guild is in a bad place. We keep getting matched against the top 5 guilds which have 30B to 130B more power than us. We have no chance. We are often matched with teams that are in higher leagues and have higher MMR. Our MMR is not low but it seems not to drop as much when we lose as it jumps when we win. The MMR does not reflect changes in the guild over time and after the mergers.

I’m not sure how to fix it as I know the top guilds need other guilds to be paired with. I would like to see no rematching during a season. I would like to see us paired with guilds in the same league as us. I would like to see the MMR reset so it reflects changes in guilds over time. Would like to see wars determined by the last war and not predetermined even if it requires a pause between wars (a few minutes, an hour?). What happens now really isn’t fairly done at this point because there are times when we don’t even have a chance at Legendary and wars where we have no chance of winning are not fun. :woman_shrugging:

Edited to add: Maybe add is handicaps to combat power differences? Or only have off duty heroes for the team that is higher in rank?

#7

I’m in the 4th ranked guild on S1. We have rematches with the guilds ranked 1st-3rd, and 5th every 7-9 wars. We have rematches with the guilds ranked 6th-9th around every 8-11 wars. We face a guild ranked 10th or lower maybe once a month.

The only time that I’ve found that constant rematches is an issue is when my guild has been ranked 6th-8th because it is typically impossible to beat the guilds from 1st to 5th due to total power difference. There’s about 15 wars a month, if you’re the 6th-8th ranked guild, 8-10 of your wars every month are going to be unwinnable due to rematches. This either makes it impossible for these guilds to reach Legendary every month or leaves them no margin for error against any guild that isn’t a guaranteed loss for them to have a chance at Legendary every month.

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#8

My guild is 9th in rankings based on total power, but last month we played against the top 5 guilds 6 times (one of them played against twice). That’s 6 automatic losses. We were only allowed to lose 2 of the 9 other wars to make it to legendary. I’m not speaking of an anomaly. This happens just about every month. Occasionally, we get a couple months of good matches and we make it to legendary, but then it’s back to not making it to legendary. We made it to Challenger last month. Our MMR was about 800 higher than 2nd place in Challenger. That’s ridiculous. It’s not for lack of trying that we didn’t make it to legendary either.

I like @Carola_19 ‘s idea to match up against guilds with similar MMR 2-3 times a month. It makes for a more exciting war

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#9

MMR and other things are already in progress for QoL this is JUST for rematches.

#10

If the MMRs are close rematching isn’t a bad thing to me. But if we’re constantly up against guilds that are 500 to 600 MMR points higher…that sucks.

#11

Eh well… the War Remake is viable for top guilds not low.

I just hope rewards get better scaling.

#12

tbh, because of the significant MMR pain points I don’t even notice what guilds we’re matched with well enough to tell if they are rematches or not.

That may be MMR feedback in disguise, but it’s true :man_shrugging:

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#15

Every seven or so matches is the same guilds over and over again with rematches. Most that are more powerful and can’t beat anyways.

It’s simple… shouldn’t have to rematch the same guilds for each war season over and over again. Just make it so you battle a single guild once per war season and that should give people more variety and opportunities to make legendary status for rewards.

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#17

It’s the weekend, Loutre isn’t in the office, and you’ve already asked the question twice before. It was amusing at the end of your earlier comment, but now it’s just annoying.

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#18

I’m not sure if I can still react, but my take on it is that rematches within a season should not happen, that is annoying and was really frustrating to have some time ago.

So I would say don’t allow repeats for 20 wars or something like that

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#19

Our guild (top 15 in war) fights pretty much the same guilds every month, just in a different order. I understand its normal given how many guilds there are that we can potentially fight using MMR alone. As others said probably 2-3 out of the monthly fights are actually close calls and interesting. The rest are either we stomp the other guild or they stomp us. I would guess its ok to rematch some of those neck fights, but we already have that chance every month. I would rather have more of those type of fights vs different guilds (e.g. based on lineup power rather than MMR).

#20

@Loutre we should face 10 different guilds a month in my opinion, that seems to be the right amount cause it will give guilds the opportunity to make legendary more often and give guilds more wiggle room incase of losses,

Which since you only need 7 wins for legendary having 10 different wars will give all guilds a chance to make legendary cause normally after war 7 your cycle repeats for rest of month

Issue with 13/14 different wars a month is that finding that many guilds that close in mmr/power is very hard and will make it more difficult for guilds wars to be fair

right now after 7 wars the cycle resets and in top guilds they have a set schedule of 7 wars pretty much with an occasional toss up war

#21

guild war is totally fine. the only thing that can be changed there is the rewards. perhaps it would be worth equalizing the strength of all players so that the ladder is more diverse. but here the game p2w many do not like it.

#22

I think the majority has been said, mainly that some wars are predefined at the start, so having those more often isn’t nice for anyone

One suggestion that has been mentioned a few times is equalising the power to make it more interesting - then rematching more often would make it challenging for everyone

Top guilds won’t care if they lose to someone lower than them if it is clear that power was adjusted in my opinion, as I feel they are quite bored with just winning all wars over and over

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