Skill cost increase was worse than imagined

[Ranger_Lionheart_VII]

Just coming to the forums to also voice my disagreement with the gold and exp cost increases. I struggle to have a few characters usable at my level, although I think it would be fun. In a game I always ask: where’s the fun? This cost increase actively removes fun from the game and makes it even harder for people to use more heroes they enjoy.

[SiriusHP]

We as the consumer need to band together to make any change. If we stop buying they will have no power. Join me in the free to play revolution. If they lose enough spenders and it hits their pocket book then they will have to do something. Until it hurts they financially they couldn’t care less what our opinions are.

[Harry_Kane]

Baymax only use was as a shield now a 3 star disk is crap hows that right?

[Mystborn]

I as well would like to add my voice to those about the increase to leveling. These changes don’t adversely affect the big spenders of the game which is what the notes made it seem like they were being made to address. It adversely affects all of us who try and be competitive without giving all of our hard earned money to this game. You want to offset the leveling so the metrics for your server don’t alert you as fast that it is time to increase the level cap, fine. But I bet there is a much better way to do it then to slow down all the f2p players who are near top levels. Like others I will be re-evaluating my financial contributions to this game as I do not like the direction it is going.

[Trystal_Storm]

Vote with your wallet boycott!!!

[Kinokan]

Continuing the discussion from Update 1.7 Patch Notes:

Update 1.7 Patch Notes

To reiterate how much of a change this increase in skill cost can be let’s do some math.

Let’s go with one hero and a white skill. The skill starts at lvl 1 and you want to raise it to say lvl 100. The gold cost goes like such: 100, 500, 1000, 1500, 2000, 2500, 3000, 3500, 4000, 4500, 5000, 5500, 6000, 6500, 7000, 7500, 8000, 8500, 9000, 10k, 10.5k, 11k, 11.5k, 12k, 12.5, 13k, 13.5k, 14k, 14.5k, 15k, 15.5k, 16k, 16.5k, 17k, 17.5k, 18k, 18.5k, 19.5k, 20k. That gets a skill up to 40 and costs a total of. 410,100 gold. Still a good chunk of change and from here on it only gets worse as every level after increases cost by 1k. Now this is until level 85. 41 starts at 21k and 85 would end at 64k. This changes that 410,100 to 2,280,100 gold. Over 5 times at that rate.

Now here is we will differentiate. Because on live servers it keeps that 1k scaling a level. Let’s assume that at 86+ it goes to 1.5k scaling a level instead. Live will continue at 65k ending at 79k. Whereas the possible 1.7 change will start at 65.5k and end at 86.5k. Live would finish out to level one skill on one hero at 3,360,100. Wheras the possible 1.7 would end at 3,420,100. Now 60k doesn’t sound like a lot but if you multiply that by 98 which is every hero times 2 as white and green skills scale the same way would increase the total cost to get all those skills up to 100 by 5,880,000.

That is almost 6m gold players will need just to max out 2 skills. That’s not including blue or purple skills, or enhancement, or badge crafting, or mercenary daily costs for active surge participation, or the daily markets, or the cost of adding stars to heroes. In all honesty it is absurd how much this will hurt players. Even with these supposed hoarders that this is trying to balance, the cost of maintaining heroes just got increased by an exponential amount. I implore you PB, read through the comments and see that backlash this change is bringing about. Please do not have this go onto live servers. It isn’t a smart way to do this. Better yet, play your own game and ask if this type of experience would be one that you enjoy. If it is then kudos to you, however I think you will find a majority of people do not appreciate this direction you are steering the game towards.

So I turned out to be wrong. My idea of changing the 1k scaling to 1.5k was in my mind a worst case scenario. Instead it turns out that the scaling is increased to 3k. So let’s do some more math. Pre 1.7 was a total of 3,360,100. Whereas now 1.7 goes to a total of 3,573,100. A difference of 213,000. Which brings to total upgrade cost of 2 skills to lvl 100 another 20.8M. 14M higher than my worst guess. Again this is only for green and white skills. Adding blue and purple only makes it worse. A 300% increase to the scaling is NOT okay. Especially when new heroes and new level caps are continuing to be introduced. It is my belief that if PB want to save face and not hemorage more players and get more refunds taken out of their account that this change needs to be reverted.

[J_Murphy]

Yikes! Haven’t spent much on this game recently outside really enticing badge buster deals but I am definitely done now. Already didn’t have enough gold or XP potions now the problem is just exasperated. I’m by no means a whale but have ~20 level 100 skill maxed characters but now feels like I won’t be getting anyone else their anytime soon

[Monsters_Inc]

Please revert this awful idea…

[Frasier]

Funny thing is, there is a 50 euro deal now celebrating this patch and guess what’s in the deal? Among other things: 7m in gold.

What a joke

[DJHeat]

So you guys know that. Most of us that kept gold spent it all before the update . Got all our skills to max. Leveled all our characters to 100. Still have lots of extra gold left and xp potions. Now try to catch up Haha. Good luck all of you that didnt have gold to begin with!

I’d like to thank @Polaris to ignoring everybody here and perblue for their amazing work with this update and preventing all the others in catching up! Thank you very much!

This was exactly what I did before the update. Telling us in advance that you were retroactively jacking up the skill costs was an incredibly bad move because it just let all the players with capped characters and resources to burn cement their lead over the players who struggle to keep their main teams skilled up. I probably spent 15 million gold and now someone else doing the same thing will need to spend 50 to catch up, how on earth is that fair?

[Nobunkado]

@Polaris, I am trying to be neautral here but to make a claim about hording is just unrealist without statistics and numbers to back your claim. The people that are actually playing are spending more than what they are recieving.
I honestly suggest, in the future, to provide some kind of data supporting these claims. To add on this this: of those people hording the gold, are they player that paid for the gold, are they active players who are actively playing, are they players that stop playing? When your company makes a claim such as this, it must be backed up by valid data that should be open to the public. The company does not have to disclose all the nit and grit of your stats, but it would help, to clear most people head.
Just FYI, I am f2p player. So i will always have gold and exp issue as I will always need gold and exp to catch up to the higher players.

[Timberonian]

I don’t like this change, either. I love this game and spend more than I should on it. Now I use the only possible way to really voice my concern about this changes and stop sending all together. I really hope that they roll back on this update. After the 6 star outcry I hoped that this wouldn’t repeat itself…

[ChyMonkey]

I have stopped spending now, and for the first time I’m am not renewing my subscription. What happening to the game is unacceptable.

[Pipsqueak]

I’m level 97 and a non-paying VIP 7. I play actively every day, do all my dailies, score highly in surge and always do hard CW. I strategise and manage resources as well as anybody.

I could just barely maintain 24 max levelled and skilled heroes (forget promotions though, no chance). The rest are totally forgotten, at level 70 and with level 50 skills or below.

The cost has increased by a third.

So, my 24 maxed heros will be reduced to 16. That is barely enough to cover a coli team.

It is NOT enough to cover my war offence, because there can be up to 5 off duty heros.

The game is now ruined for me.

[Caspa_j]

Rules how about you follow some ethics and start respecting your loyal players. I have been here since it come out and seen so many players leave because of your greed. You are so close to losing even more of the top 50 players in server 7 and u don’t care.@Polaris

[Barrera93]

Polaris is doing what be can. All we can do is be patient and hope for the best. I feel like he really is sharing our complaints with his contacts. I’m just hoping it’ll be enough.

He’s the only one capable of helping us now, so don’t hate on him too much. I don’t want him giving up on us or this game.

[GiraffeyEthan]

They are taking the Mickey Mouse, such a rip off. It’s like they don’t care about the players and just want money

[Razzle_Dazzle]

It is worse than I expected too, I expected it to align so level 100 cost 100,000. But this exceeded even that, unbelievable.

Pay to win just become so much more real than it ever was.

[Team_Prison_Mike]

What’s taking the Mickey Mouse?

[GiraffeyEthan]

PerBlue, who else would be