Quoting myself again because I want to make sure this is handled and do all I can to help before I leave.
Perhaps I missed the comments or maybe Iâm simply obtuse but I donât see where anyone placed the blame entirely on the male gender. However, sexism and harassment disproportionately affects more females than males, in the real world and in this game environment. Itâs abhorrent and should always be condemned regardless of the perpetratorâs gender.
My apologies if Iâve strayed off topic.
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I have to be honest. I donât really understand your question here. Can I get an elaboration about what it is specifically what you want? Because Iâve read your post and I first thought you just made an concluding statement with which I agreed on. I do agree that inner qualities are more important than all other external factors.
But after rereading your post several times now, It appears you want the people who had opposing views of you to rethink them and consider both viewpoints. And I guess I had trouble understanding this sentence because I always consider both viewpoints before I throw myself in any discussion. But I guess itâs a fair request if there are indeed people who can only view an argument from their point of view. And lastly I understand you expect an apology. And I donât quite understand this one either. Because it seems like you expect an apology from people who had a different opinion about this matter? This is what I got from your post, please correct me if I understood something wrong.
I think this sums it up pretty well. I strongly believe as well that the best course of action in case someone tries to bully you is to just flag them, report them and ignore them. All these bullies want is attention, if you stop giving them that, they wonât get any satisfaction any more from their actions.
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In my personal experience, a reasonable female gamer will not act in any way to encourage this kind of harassment, because they find being treated this way unpleasant.
In one specific case I know of, a female gamer was forced to generate a male character because playing a female character just caused harrassment of this kind and let the other players assume male character=male player.
Ideally we should consider both viewpoints in any situation, but obectifying females in this way is not really acceptible, so I simply donât see how this behavior can be defended or justified at all.
Also, there is one principle most gamers know, if a player claims to be female, but acts innappropriately, then you arenât dealing with a female.
Mostly, I judge the character of a player by how they choose to attire their character, if they show up in battle wearing full body armor or full length clothing, then theyâre a good person.
If they show up in uniforms/costumes that provide minimal protection from damage, well, thatâs when choose another team and take the AFK penalty, as my silent protest.
@Ferlaqua
I call it the Krogan principle, because a specific Krogan said âthe greatest insult to an enemy is to ignore themâ.
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Idk about this - when Iâm picking cosmetics I donât consider âwould this piece of attire be handy in a battleâ if thereâs no associated stat bonus or something. I just want to look cool 
my brother & I both play Fortnite and we nearly always prefer the female skins, not because we are female of course but because they tend to look much cooler, the male ones generally look (to us) either goofy or brutish which donât represent us at all. This is the one I wear most often because itâs literally me, who cares if itâs a girl 
Iâm not sure this is a healthy opinion and I certainly donât want to be lumped in with said males 
male players
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Yes, I realize now I should have said âcertain or some male playersâ instead, not all male gamers act this way (see the above principle you quoted as to how I identify the uncouth ones).
By protection from damage, I didnât mean that literallly, I was thinking more along the lines of âdoes the outfit insulate/protect the character from the effects of cool or cold weather?â.
If the answer is no, then I quit the team.
Most games, outfits are just cosmetic, that armor pieces are either masked by them or not visible in any form other then unseen stat increases/special traits.
Which actually started this problem in the first place, or at least laid the groundwork for it, that a player could walk around with their armor invisible for purposes of objectification instead of having to wear it visibily.
I was using that as an example.
Exactly. Especially people who are calling this bullying or made stereotypes of characters or real women. That is downplaying the issue or making the issue worse and thus not helpful.
An apology from the people who wrote messages with a harsh tone, stereotyped, called this bullying, did not recognize the problem is as big as it is or at all, made statements of personal attack, etc. Basically, I want people to try to have empathy. POLARIS literally was encouraging it.
I am now going to point this out.
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I must ask, why do you think it is wrong to call it bullying? I very well can be considered a form of bullying. In fact,
You said so yourself?
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What I was getting at here is that it is MORE than bullying.
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Hmm, I donât think it is more than bullying, it is just a particular form of/reason for bullying.
From Wikipedia:
Bullying is the use of force, coercion, hurtful teasing or threat, to abuse, aggressively dominate or intimidate. The behavior is often repeated and habitual. One essential prerequisite is the perception (by the bully or by others) of an imbalance of physical or social power.
To say it is worse than other forms of bullying, I suppose you are entitled to that opinion but in general, calling it bullying is not downplaying and in fact should be considered up-playing because any form of bullying is very serious.
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And the reason I say this is because I apologized in a way and even edited the post that frustrated people and tried to understand what everyone else said. I did not even have to apologize first because that just feeds into the problem in a way.
Clearly, this is not going to make any change, and very little if any based on what I am seeing now.
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I commend you for making the effort though and for sustaining it for so long.
I donât remember where I saw or read it, but there is one scene where a father lectures his son that being sexist is not appropriate, then asks him, how would he feel if someone said that about his female family members, then the point sinks in.
It hasnât happened often, but the reason why I know exactly how female gamers are treated is Iâm often mistaken for one and then hear the comments which would not be directed to a male player.
And everytime someone makes that error of assumption, I firmly correct them to end that line of conversation or to pre-empt it occurring if they havenât started it yet.
In one specific case, it actually made it worse, because the other person said âyou are male, so you should be agreeing with these opinionsâ.
In my opinion, sexual harrasment is not acceptible and it can take many forms, especially in gaming or the internet where social and behavioral limitations arenât in effect.
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What?
Would you mind posting the links to the statistics youâre using? Otherwise, saying that doesnât mean anything. 
@Polaris I respectfully request that this topic is closed or archived. I have received indirect hate/dislike for speaking about it and I do not want the discussion to continue because clearly no social change is going to happen here or on the game. I had hope, but I no longer do.
I would also like to completely delete my forums account. Is that possible and how can I do this?
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The issue is not equivalent to an idea. I was talking about a problem that some believe is not a problem at all or downplaying it by not thinking about how to empathize and other things.
Clearly no change on the forums is going to happen even if someone who is affected by it wonât do anything here because the forums and game is a male dominated environment. Group-wide thinking is going on here and I can tell.
I want to delete my account because of personal reasons, some of which applies to this thread. Some do not. I am no longer having that much fun here and I need to focus on myself and real life.
@Imagineer_V if you want sexism to change here on forums you need to believe in yourself but at least you gave up a very big fight and letâs hope in the future that this will change
There are a lot of statistics about harassment and it isnât even. The data is easily available on the internet. Everyone needs to do better.
Community, this is unacceptable. Someone should not receive hate for speaking about something theyâve experience or are concerned about. Driving someone away from the forums just because they have a different experience or perspective is toxic and not something we support.
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As a part of the Community, I can assure anyone interested that thereâs no hateful feeling to be found here on this post, other than the odd spammer. Something has clearly been misinterpreted or misconstrued to have reached this conclusion. Thereâs a lot of generalisation going on here thanks to literally a couple of people choosing to be rude 
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