I see your point now. I’m sorry for any disruption I caused. Thanks for answering me anyway. 
Mother Gothel was heading straight for D-tier until we saw her numbers.
Numbers are pretty freakin’ important.
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Yah and disks. I wrote her off as a bad summoner. She’s one of those, kill at the start or else she’ll wreck your team.
(As always, the tier list is on the 1st post)
Getting spooky around here… 4.3.10!
- Added The Mayor
- Something fresh is around us, oh, it’s a very well-done refresh for Miguel! Can you guess how high he got? For now he got the red arrow due to minor-or-more bugs, hopefully they will be gone until next update
- Few hero movements
- Results from the polls will be introduced in the next update (for the sake of more votes)
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- Votes can be changed, btw.
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this is miserable.
MINNIE! B TIER? Lets see,
Back to A Tier she should go.
Tia Dalma, too high. Low B tier makes more sense.
22, too high, below Angel.
Magica, too low, above Cheshire.
EDIT: Miguel because you gave him red arrow
Is now Miguel that good? 
Yes, PB did really good job here, the refresh is very good, just like Shank’s.
There are few bugs on him now, and basic damage from battle badge and red skill needs to be changed.
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Well, they did partially fix this by giving Miguel’s Red Skill a 4th passive. :V
But it’s still here, and removing it will be just a bit lazy, it should be replaced with tenacity/evasion.
And no excuse for basic damage in battle badge for him and Joy.
Her damage skyrockets to huge values with maxed red skill, and her Felix disk makes her energy gain fast too. She takes advantage of buffed enemies, and all her secondary stats are above the cap.
One hit and the codebase is done too.
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How do you rate Miguel after refresh?
- Amazing
- Great
- Good
- Mediocre
- Nothing changed/Meh
- Bad
- Don’t have him upgraded/Not tested myself yet
0 voters
Voting great just cause of the bug, but otherwise would be amazing
I put not tested because of the bugs
I put good. I think he is WAY better than before but I still don’t see him so OP
Not upgraded yet; why would I spend all that stamina before a FtN contest?
There is one starting in few hours 
Yes, they literally said that. They want to save up so they have more energy for it.
@Musketeer I would like to know why Olaf is in D tier.
I use him a lot and he’s a reliable freezer with good dodging and revive, in my opinion.
Thanks for any response 
Poor survivability
Low damage
Small AoE of anything
Outdated skills and disks
Almost anyone else is better at this
… no.
… and that proves/gives what?
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